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the deficit is going to swamp the economy. and at that point you're going to have the debt crisis, and you're going to need a whole new stream of revenues. the only thing that paul krugman and paul ryan agree on, only a value added tax will solve this problem. by raising marginal tax rates to get us out of this potential crisis. so we need very, very steep spending cuts, all of the emphasis and debate has been over marginal tax rates which are really a minor part of the solution, no matter what political strife you happen to be. have you to realize that tremendous spending cuts are necessary and already -- any changes to social security have been ruled out in a short term solution, and it's going to be very difficult. the congressmen from oklahoma were correct. that it's going to be hand to hand combat in the next session in order to get any kind of cuts. no one is talking about major cuts. >> sean -- >> except some on the republican side. >> i hear what you're saying, it sounds like, you know, i've read that this fiscal cliff
the deficit is going to swamp the economy. and at that point you're going to have the debt crisis, and you're going to need a whole new stream of revenues. the only thing that paul krugman and paul ryan agree on, only a value added tax will solve this problem. by raising marginal tax rates to get us out of this potential crisis. so we need very, very steep spending cuts, all of the emphasis and debate has been over marginal tax rates which are really a minor part of the solution, no matter what...
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we have a $1.3 trillion deficit for 2012. it will be about a trillion for 2013. we're borrowing 35 cents on the dollar. the enormous problem is interest rates are way below normal, so when they spike, which they inevitably will, and the government is borrowing very short term to keep its costs down, the deficit is going to swamp the economy. and at that point you're going to have the debt crisis, and you're going to need a whole new stream of revenues. the only thing that paul krugman and paul ryan agree on, in a crisis situation, only a value-added tax will solve this problem. by raising marginal tax rates to get us out of this potential crisis. so we need very, very steep spending cuts, all of the emphasis and debate has been over marginal tax rates which are really a minor part of the solution, no matter what political strife you happen to be. you have to realize that tremendous spending cuts are necessary and already the -- any changes to social security have been ruled out in a short-term solution and it's going to be very difficult, congressman from oklahom
we have a $1.3 trillion deficit for 2012. it will be about a trillion for 2013. we're borrowing 35 cents on the dollar. the enormous problem is interest rates are way below normal, so when they spike, which they inevitably will, and the government is borrowing very short term to keep its costs down, the deficit is going to swamp the economy. and at that point you're going to have the debt crisis, and you're going to need a whole new stream of revenues. the only thing that paul krugman and paul...
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it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes, we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> senator, senator mcconnell has spoken a couple times with the vpz. we have seen in the past that the two of them have been able to come up with bipartisan deals to get through congress on taxes and other things. did he give you an indication in the meeting you just had with rank and file republicans that might be an avenue of success? >> there -- those conversations and discussions continue. and we remain hopeful that that will get a breakthrough. on veryiously, what had happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because the senate democrats failed to come forward with a counteroffer to the proposal republicans made last night. so hopefully, the discussions between the vice president and senator mcconnell will get us back on track, hopefully get a breakthrough and something we can vote on, hopefully today or tomorrow that will avert what we believe will be an economic di
it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes, we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> senator, senator mcconnell has spoken a couple times with the vpz. we have seen in the past that the two of them have been able to come up with bipartisan deals to get through congress on taxes and other things. did he give you an indication in the meeting you just had with rank and file republicans...
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had to be a paydown on $24 billion of the deficit. we'll have two months to argue out the debt ceiling and the sequester. that was a bright line the president laid out to vice president biden and the staff, said that had to be in the deal, or no deal. >> might be too early, too soon, any read out, any sense of how the meeting's gone between the vice president and the house democrats or we're still working on that? >> reporter: i am not getting any -- any read-out yet because i think it's ongoing. but i will tell you that there is -- even going into it -- a sense of optimism here. the staffers who were working well past 2:00 a.m. last night still have not booked their vacation -- well, they have not left on vacation but i think they're approaching the point where they might feel comfortable booking their vacation travel for a few days. you get the sense they think this is going to wrap up. >> strange how we get our information. we have to look at people's travel and vacation plans. but, yes, it could give us an inkling we're getting cl
had to be a paydown on $24 billion of the deficit. we'll have two months to argue out the debt ceiling and the sequester. that was a bright line the president laid out to vice president biden and the staff, said that had to be in the deal, or no deal. >> might be too early, too soon, any read out, any sense of how the meeting's gone between the vice president and the house democrats or we're still working on that? >> reporter: i am not getting any -- any read-out yet because i think...
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the deficit and the debt and that is happening today to put a patch on not going over the cliff. there has to be new revenues and some entitlement reform, and cpi is the most painless way to do it. and the president offered it in a deal as recently as a week or two ago, and spending cuts, but right now, it is not a grand bargain, because we have the debt ceiling hanging out in two months. this is an attempt to avoid political pain and going over the cliff and we can't get an agreement on a patch with less than 36 hours to go. >> and don, this is the problem, something is the going to hurt. we can't get out with no pain, and we have all sorts of things and nobody wants to pay for it, don. >> you two are fired up, too. and the people at home are too, right. >> and 516 days since we knew that the deadline would come. >> and right at the deadline, and they are going home. >> right. and we are not. >> we are not. we will be here until who knows. okay. a stalemate or breakthrough? with hours to go, lawmakers are searching for a compromise. what are the chances of reaching a deal in was
the deficit and the debt and that is happening today to put a patch on not going over the cliff. there has to be new revenues and some entitlement reform, and cpi is the most painless way to do it. and the president offered it in a deal as recently as a week or two ago, and spending cuts, but right now, it is not a grand bargain, because we have the debt ceiling hanging out in two months. this is an attempt to avoid political pain and going over the cliff and we can't get an agreement on a...
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but 90 million is not that much, especially when you consider the federal deficit is $16 trillion and climbing. to retire the debt, every single american would have to pay $50,000. but garcia says you got to start somewhere, especially when washington won't. the partisan fighting has bothered him since? 1992, when he first wrote his congressman, suggesting a formula to put down the debt. the veteran says he is giving back to a country that has given him so much. a sense of duty, that is infectious. his daughter is now collecting cans at work. his grandson drives garcia to friends' houses, just to collect more cans. garcia knows that his monthly money orders won't avert the fiscal cliff. but they say that is not the message garcia is sending to congress. >> in order to really solve the $16 trillion national debt you have to sacrifice. >> reporter: politicians talk about kicking the can down the road. one american has decided that road has to end. and it might as well be here. kyung lah, cnn, san antonio, texas. >>> back in a moment. it's lots of things. all waking up. connecting to the
but 90 million is not that much, especially when you consider the federal deficit is $16 trillion and climbing. to retire the debt, every single american would have to pay $50,000. but garcia says you got to start somewhere, especially when washington won't. the partisan fighting has bothered him since? 1992, when he first wrote his congressman, suggesting a formula to put down the debt. the veteran says he is giving back to a country that has given him so much. a sense of duty, that is...
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the tax rates in place for incomes of $250,000, letting everybody else's expire to help go towards deficit reduction. but democrats in the talks have been willing to come up and that's another big gulf between the two of them on this issue of tax rates. >> dana bash, thanks for the latest update from capitol hill. let's get you checked in with other storyings trending on cnn.com. the death toll from russia in a plane crash has risen to five. the plane went off a runway at a russian airport. >>> two georgia boys, will soon be headed home after being missing for several days. henry and ben were found in austin, texas. police say their father, daniel cleary failed to return them home after a holiday visit. cleary is now in police custody. and who doesn't know the oakridge boys, the group sang for former president george h.w. bush while he's recovering in hospital. we'll talk to one of the band members. >>> let's do this one for you, you'll remember this one. ♪ amazing grace >> those are the oak ridge boys singing "amazing grace." the gospel turned country crooners brightened up the xli pres
the tax rates in place for incomes of $250,000, letting everybody else's expire to help go towards deficit reduction. but democrats in the talks have been willing to come up and that's another big gulf between the two of them on this issue of tax rates. >> dana bash, thanks for the latest update from capitol hill. let's get you checked in with other storyings trending on cnn.com. the death toll from russia in a plane crash has risen to five. the plane went off a runway at a russian...
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we still have deficits that have to be dealt with. we still have to think about how we put our economy on a long-term trajectory of growth. how we continue to make investments in things like education, things like infrastructure that help our economy grow. keep in mind that the threat of tax hikes going up is only one part of this so-called fiscal cliff that everybody is talking about. what we also have facing us starting tomorrow are automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go into effect. and keep in mind that some of these spending cuts that congress has said will automatically go into effect have an impact on our defense department, but they also have an impact on things like head start. so there are some programs scheduled to be cut that we're using an ax instead of a scalpel. may not always be the smartest cuts. and so that is a piece of business that still has to be taken care of. and i want to make clear that any agreement we have to deal with these automatic spending cuts that are being threatened for next month, those a
we still have deficits that have to be dealt with. we still have to think about how we put our economy on a long-term trajectory of growth. how we continue to make investments in things like education, things like infrastructure that help our economy grow. keep in mind that the threat of tax hikes going up is only one part of this so-called fiscal cliff that everybody is talking about. what we also have facing us starting tomorrow are automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go into...
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this time bomb that the congress created was designed to deal with deficit and the debt. we won't get that right now. but we might get a plan to deal with taxes, to avoid the fiscal cliff, that's a win for the economy and the american people. >> john, it is joe johns in washington, d.c. we have heard so much about tax increases and how they're going to handle those and not so much about the spending cuts and my question to you is at the end of the day, are we going to end up essentially with some type of a plan that could add to the federal deficit instead of reduce it? >> you noticed that, huh? sequester hasn't really been the topic of much conversation. look, that is still unclear right now. obviously, again, the point of all of this, the reason that over 500 days ago we set the fiscal cliff with regard to the spending cuts and knew the bush tax cuts were expiring ten years ago on this date, that was an impetus to create bargain to deal with deficit and debt. what seems to be coming together now is largely, as you said, a planned focused on taxes. not just the tough tax
this time bomb that the congress created was designed to deal with deficit and the debt. we won't get that right now. but we might get a plan to deal with taxes, to avoid the fiscal cliff, that's a win for the economy and the american people. >> john, it is joe johns in washington, d.c. we have heard so much about tax increases and how they're going to handle those and not so much about the spending cuts and my question to you is at the end of the day, are we going to end up essentially...
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road and will have to do it later. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff was incentive to try to deal with deficit reduction. this is dismantling the consequence of dealing with the bigger issue. the bigger issue is still going to be with us in the next couple months because now as the debt ceiling is set to hit, this will all come into play. republicans aren't going to budge on increasing the debt ceiling until they get some of the things they want on deficit reduction. they want tax reform. so do democrats want tax reform but they have different ideas about how to do it it. it's kicking the can down the road. there will be a lot more ahead on this. >> brianna keilar breaking it down for us at the white house. thanks for that. >>> eight senators voted against this compromised measure, but the opposition didn't fall along party lines. tom harkin, tom krarner and michael bennett all voted now. so did these five republicans. let's put the politics to the side for a minute and ask the question most of us are wondering. what does this measure mean for you and your wallet? ali velshi is crunch iing the
road and will have to do it later. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff was incentive to try to deal with deficit reduction. this is dismantling the consequence of dealing with the bigger issue. the bigger issue is still going to be with us in the next couple months because now as the debt ceiling is set to hit, this will all come into play. republicans aren't going to budge on increasing the debt ceiling until they get some of the things they want on deficit reduction. they want tax reform. so...
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a lot of people are worried it's going to decrease the deficit. so a lot of complicated issues and political issues. and we hear it all of the time. >> let's talk about lake superior state university and how this list compiling all began. >> it was a bet new year's eve, 1976. >> long ago. >> yep. and they discussed how many words and phrases are overused too often. and the originator of this list back in 1976 went back and drew up a list of five words to submit to upi, united press international. and the whole thing took off from there, and we take nominations from all over the world. whatever floats to the top gets to our list. >> and is i was going to ask how that happened. people can, what, make suggestions, somehow contact your university and say here's a word i want banished. >> lssubanished. do a search and it will get you right to our page. and there is still time to vote, by the way. the list comes out on monday at 12:01. if we get anymore packed ballot boxes, we'll include those. >> do that right now. a few of the words banished for 2012,
a lot of people are worried it's going to decrease the deficit. so a lot of complicated issues and political issues. and we hear it all of the time. >> let's talk about lake superior state university and how this list compiling all began. >> it was a bet new year's eve, 1976. >> long ago. >> yep. and they discussed how many words and phrases are overused too often. and the originator of this list back in 1976 went back and drew up a list of five words to submit to upi,...
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over that i think some of the people who are making more than that can help address the deficit and the debt problem that confronts our country. obviously a necessity put this country on a path. if we're going to do that, everybody has to make a contribution toward that. those who have the most need to make their contributions. so the math has got to work. we're not really dealing with the math at this point in time. we're dealing simply with what are the realities of the ability to get to an agreement and create consensus, which is going to be essential if we don't go over the cliff at midnight tonight. so clearly the administration has been working very hard. i think others have been working hard. hopefully we'll get there. >> i know you're measuring this in hours. in fact, as my colleague points out, 517 days ago is when this was wrought by the bodies trying to fix it. on the senate side, tom harkin made it clear they may try to block that vote over the thing you're talking about. i want to listen to what he said on the floor just moments ago. >> if we're going to have some kind of a
over that i think some of the people who are making more than that can help address the deficit and the debt problem that confronts our country. obviously a necessity put this country on a path. if we're going to do that, everybody has to make a contribution toward that. those who have the most need to make their contributions. so the math has got to work. we're not really dealing with the math at this point in time. we're dealing simply with what are the realities of the ability to get to an...
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it's deficits that got us into this problem. it's only reducing the deficit that's will get us out of this problem. >> the key there is it's my best belief that they've reached an agreement on revenues, that means on this issue of raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. this is still a fight over tax rates for wealthy americans at this point. not sure what else is on the table. doctors, see a 27% cut on the pay they get for medicare services, that's a problem. amt. there's a whole host of people that are going to get hit if they don't fix this. >> that's tough all around for everybody. the fact he's saying it's somewhat optimistic is surprising to me. i haven't heard that much optimism, but we'll see how it goes. christine, thank you. we appreciate it. the outlook on wall street might be a little gloomy when the opening bell rings later this hour. but investors elsewhere around the world, they're actually holding steady. britain's ftse index and hong kong's hang seng index spent most of the morning down but only slightly. jap
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to do everything we can to prevent higher income individuals to pay a little bit more to reduce our deficit, and that's what's been going on for the last six months. that's what the conversation in the election was all about, but here we are. >> can you walk us through this? you said the chain cpi. i was told it was off the table. is it still on the table? >> earlier today i would have said the odds of an agreement was very low because mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, had put that into the talks. that apparently is no longer part of it. >> walk us through this, what's happening right now. are we at 250 or 400? what are we doing with unemployment? what's going on? >> well, again, there's -- no one has agreed to any particular threshold, whether it's 250, whether it's 400. unemployment insurance is something that is the an absolute requirement. the president has said and i totally agree that it's important that folks who are out of work through no fault of their own continue to get help. it's not just good for their families but the whole neighborhood and the local economy. one of the
to do everything we can to prevent higher income individuals to pay a little bit more to reduce our deficit, and that's what's been going on for the last six months. that's what the conversation in the election was all about, but here we are. >> can you walk us through this? you said the chain cpi. i was told it was off the table. is it still on the table? >> earlier today i would have said the odds of an agreement was very low because mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, had put...
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they demand they reduce deficit as a condition for raising the debt ceiling. without a deal shs the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. republicans and democrats deploy tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit raid raiting for the first time in history. in a last-minute compromise, both sides agree to a trillion dollars in spending cuts up front and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across-the-board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect starting january 2013. at the exact moment when the bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would expire. the point is we could have all seen this coming. some of us did. we yelled but we were drown out by the election. it seems common sense and good governance get drown out by endless and continuous elections in america. this time there may be a serious price to pay for it. >> keep it here today. at the white house president obama
they demand they reduce deficit as a condition for raising the debt ceiling. without a deal shs the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. republicans and democrats deploy tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit raid raiting for the first time in history. in a last-minute compromise, both sides agree to a trillion dollars in spending cuts up front and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special super committee. but a poison pill was...
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and the way they agreed to it is they paid down $24 billion on the deficit. remember, congress agreed to these major spending cuts, right? >> that's two months down the road, so even that is kind of a little bit anti-climactic. it is like, my god, the fiscal cliff, the fiscal cliff. we'll deal with it in two months. jessica yellin, so much more to talk to you about. we'll check in later, but thanks so much. >>> as we wait for republicans and democrats to come to the microphones, one democrat just left the meeting, he's going to be joining us next. sten to thesy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirit
and the way they agreed to it is they paid down $24 billion on the deficit. remember, congress agreed to these major spending cuts, right? >> that's two months down the road, so even that is kind of a little bit anti-climactic. it is like, my god, the fiscal cliff, the fiscal cliff. we'll deal with it in two months. jessica yellin, so much more to talk to you about. we'll check in later, but thanks so much. >>> as we wait for republicans and democrats to come to the microphones,...
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a plan that would simplify the tax code, shrink the deficit, protect the taxpayers, and grow the economy. but democrats consistently rejected those offers. the president chose, instead, to spend his time on the campaign trail. this was even after he got re-elected. and congressional democrats sat on their hands. now, republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. the phone never rang and so now here we are five days from the new year and we might finally start talking. democrats have had an entire year to put forward a balanced bipartisan proposal. and if they had something to fit the bill, i'm sure the majority leader would have been able to deliver the votes the president would have needed to pass it here in the senate. and weapon wouldn't be in this
a plan that would simplify the tax code, shrink the deficit, protect the taxpayers, and grow the economy. but democrats consistently rejected those offers. the president chose, instead, to spend his time on the campaign trail. this was even after he got re-elected. and congressional democrats sat on their hands. now, republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. the phone never rang and so now here we are five...
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trade deficit with china hit another record in 2011 with the value of chinese imports rising to almost $400 billion. but u.s. exports to china are also hitting record highs. >> china is now our third largest export market. and i don't think a lot of americans realize that. >> reporter: in fact, since the year 2000, 47 states have reported at least triple-digit export growth to china. including minnesota. the home of red wing shoes. >> china exports red wing shoe company have really taken off in the last five years. >> reporter: for red wing, the key is quality control. it says chinese-made products just don't measure up. >> the boots don't last as long. we are known for our leather. it's just a higher quality leather that's appreciated by that chinese customer. >> reporter: back in new york, fashion designer patrick ervel says his growing chinese fan base looks not only for quality but designs they can't find at home. >> now there is a bit of a cache, not just an american designer, but if you're manufacturing here, especially in menswear. >> reporter: why? >> just this idea of made in
trade deficit with china hit another record in 2011 with the value of chinese imports rising to almost $400 billion. but u.s. exports to china are also hitting record highs. >> china is now our third largest export market. and i don't think a lot of americans realize that. >> reporter: in fact, since the year 2000, 47 states have reported at least triple-digit export growth to china. including minnesota. the home of red wing shoes. >> china exports red wing shoe company have...
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illinois, there are $100 billion in the hole in terms of the deficit. nationally, you got all these people in the earlier segment playing blame game in washington. guess what? when you're spending more money than you pull in, eventually the money runs out. then you can blame all you want. but there is no money. for basic services, like police, like good education, all that stuff. they don't care about that. they spend the money on what they want to get elected. >> when you're saying that the previous mayor spent all the money, you're talking about mayor daly. rahm emanuel is in place now. >> right. >> he spent all the money on what? and then, two, what is the realistic proposal here to reverse the violence? >> well, over 20 years i can give you a laundry list of corruption and cronyism. but you know it well because you were here as well. and you saw it. there was a reporter once for "time" doing a cnn profile, comparing richard daly to andy of maybury and said he presides over chicago like andy of maybury. now that reporter is the press secretary for pr
illinois, there are $100 billion in the hole in terms of the deficit. nationally, you got all these people in the earlier segment playing blame game in washington. guess what? when you're spending more money than you pull in, eventually the money runs out. then you can blame all you want. but there is no money. for basic services, like police, like good education, all that stuff. they don't care about that. they spend the money on what they want to get elected. >> when you're saying that...